And it was in 2006

=( no mark no !!

2nd most popular character in the whole canon.

@Anthony F. I’ll lay off considering what’s happening now. Hope all are safe.

@Anthony F. // “nice guys don’t win races” is situation ethics, and an excuse to do what isn’t done in any other sport. Anyway, its not going to end any time soon, unless a car ends up in the stands, or a driver dies b/c of “the chrome horn” due to blocking, which isn’t allowed in other forms of racing. Edwards/Keselowski came close to making that a reality. Take care.

@Dan Koning As in villain, I meant rival. Not an actual bad guy

@Dan Koning That’s true, but nice guys don’t win races. Unless everybody is a nice guy. Which just saying, won’t happen. When you let everybody just win with talent, it’s usually gonna be the same couple of guys. But when the villain takes himself and the other guy out, somebody else, who you may have not expected wins.

@Anthony F. // You said it yourself Tony; villains are for stories. This is real life where being a villain isn’t something ppl are supposed to willfully promote, accept, or cheer for. A story has a “happy ending” when the villain is defeated right? Plug your way of thinking into other sports; let a “villain” determine the outcome of NFL, MLB, NBA, games etc, and see what happens long/short term. It wouldn’t be boring. *I’m more interested in an athlete winning with shear talent, and their sense of fair play, than whats up their sleeve.* jmo

@Dan Koning If everyone was Mark Martin or Chase Elliott, do you know how boring this sport would be? Dale Earnhardt and Kyle Busch make it interesting. They always have something up their sleeve to surprise you with. There’s no good story without a villain.

@Ecdysis If you look at compilations of great racing, you may think otherwise. A good finish is one that keeps you on edge, wondering who will win. A great video is “Best Short Track Finishes” by MMCS. The more time you spend looking into it, the more interesting NASCAR becomes.