First, SVG appears on the podcast, and then he wins! Corey and the gang talk about the differences and challenges Shane van Gisbergen has faced during his debut race.
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29 comments
Corey was taking a bunch of dudes into 11. He was a blast to watch early on.
SVG said in his post race interview that probably the top 10 drivers in Supercars could have done what he did that day when he won the race, I personally think Nascar drivers need to be chosen based on skill and talent, and not on what their last name is, or if their granddaddy owns a Nascar team. Too much nepotism in Nascar, and not enough skill, talent, and experience.
Yeah
At least in supercars, I can only really name one or two guys who don’t really deserve to be there (tho I don’t want to lose Jack Smith the goat)
The problem is the (mostly Southern) USA is a very small talent base on the world scale for motorsports. NASCAR is a glorified national series because no other country puts their top young guys on a pathway to drive big stockcars (even in Australia the fastest young guys are usually going to Europe to race open wheelers). It means the talent base is much lower, and countless talented drivers from all around the world who would be best in the field if they raced from kids never have enough experience to really go for it, given specialisation required. If stockcars was a common world racing discipline (lets say as popular as touring cars) and NASCAR was the top, the field nationalities would look more like indycar.
In summary, the specialised nature of NASCAR and lack of oval/stockcar background means the much larger world talent base isn’t getting experience to bring their level of racing talent to NASCAR. Look at EuroNascar, the talent level is below the truck series. Imagine WEC and DTM drivers driving EuroNascar, you’d find a few very fast guys, and that’s not even training on ovals from teens
@dxfifa No we don’t. There are those that want to go to europe and those that want to get into supercars. Mainly because the lack of money and options available for Australian and NZ drivers in Europe.
I wouldn’t say top 10 maybe 3 or 4 other v8 supercar drivers
could you imagine if Scott and SVG were both put in this race. you would see some driving then.
The Heal and Toe technique is not solely about braking its about reducing rear wheel hop and balancing the car on entry which gave him excellent entry speed
it screams volumes to me if all these guys including the drivers if they don’t know anything about the heel and toe and advantages of it plus the lines you run into and out of a corner because of it amongst other more technical things. Not to mention how hard it is to do period and also effectively and efficiently. He is also a drifter so he can go pretty hard at doing it.
Takes a lot of skill to do all that while driving flat out through the corners.
@kiwituber bruh even that is an understatement LOL no one truly realises or really knows how amaZING this feat was for SVG
SVG doesn’t allow a foot camera in his Supercar so you guys got to see his foot magic, definitely helps with his corner speed
Yeah I was surprised they were able to stick a camera in his footwell!
I would love to see the best 10 nascar drivers and the 10 best Supercars drivers competing in a race together that would be good.
C’mon guys… SVB was driving a car on the OPPOSITE side to what he normally drives… he’s shifting with the hand he never shifts with…. he’s not even sure of line for a large chunk of the race coz he’s getting used to the car… HE WAS AWESOME..!!
Came in here to say this exact same thing. It seems like now after hes won the race, a lot of people are making excuses and saying it’s because of his street track experience, but he’s having to learn a whole new car, even if it’s got some similarities to his current car, it’s still a whole new car with different tyres, a whole new track, he’s sitting on the opposite side of the car as you mentioned, and is shifting with the wrong hand. I defy anyone to go and do that and win first up what SVG did was phenomenal.
he drives wrc2 cars that r left hand drive and right hand shift.
If you bring in the whole top 10 of Australian Supercars, I reckon they would smoke all nascar drivers on a street circuit.
How about switching from right side driver to left side driver/ shifting
For the US folk wanting to see what SVG does week in and week out, do a search on “Brodie Kostecki vs Shane van Gisbergen final lap battle. Perth race 7. Supercars 2023”. Shane has driven the wheels off almost everything that he tries but the last couple of laps of the Perth race still has me on the edge of my seat when I watch it. There is probably a compilation of his epic winner’s burnouts somewhere as well. Watching that will be sure to put a grin on your face.
You have to have all your ducks lined up to win in any motor sport come race day. The best drivers in the world won’t win with an average team and setup.
This type of common sense doesn’t belong here mate
But yes gizzy’s a great driver but where’s the credit for his race team? I’d be doubtful the week leading up to the race the other drivers were doing what that team was doing, they got a good model going on whatever it is
Supercar drivers are totally on another level… Heavy cars, lots of horsepower, relatively narrow tires, tight tracks, etc. Talk about commitment, look at the Mount Panaroma Circuit, tell me those drivers aren’t half nutz…. elevation change, speed, blind corners, hard braking zones…
I drove two laps of Mt Panorama last year in my ute. As you know it’s public roads & man it’s way steeper than it looks on TV. To race around there you have to be on a different planet, skill wise.
@Free Ranger CT 110gotta love Bathurst
Aussies have revolutionised the punting in American Football, maybe our (AUS & NZ) V8 Supercar drivers will do the same for non-oval Nascar racing. Do things that have been forgotten eg clutch, or using more of the road (it was said that he drove 3″ closer to the walls thus less slowing through corners).
Is this the whole episode or is there more
perhaps you praise SVG too much. There are several guys in Supercars which have same or more experience in street course racing. But SVG has something the other dont have. SVG has prepared extremely good and serious. I doubt that any of the other guys would be prepared as good he was. Btw. his specialty is late pitstop and overtaking with better tires the other guys. The other guys are perhaps not slower than him but he has something in the infight nobody has. Perhaps Brody but nobody else