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It has to be a mechanical error, or he would’ve just checked up and went on the access road (I believe he did that earlier in the race as well). Boiling the brake fluid shows no sign of mechanical failure, but makes the brakes not work. Once it cools, the brakes come back, which is what I understood from Larson’s radio saying, “I have a pedal now.” And from what I saw on inputs, he had brake traces, but the car wasn’t slowing down
@highside2020 driver error is going into the corner too fast locking up and running in to someone not going Mach 5 with no signs of breaking whatsoever…
@highside2020 i don’t like larson i will defend him this look like something stop working on the car no way it was Driver error
@Jacob Bradley water will evaporate.. 🙂 but I get your point
So maybe a mechanic grimly that pot up then just disappeared
So it vary possible it drives errors
I just fill like it so kind of a mechanic grimly
@Jacob Bradley well since his own team said it was driver error I think I would start with that. Did you actually watch the video or are you one of the Hendricks groupies who thinks none of their drivers can make a mistake and Jeff Gordon personally tucks them in every night after the street lights come on?
It’s weird because he clearly knows something is not right because he actively tries to turn the car and miss Dillon.
Air bubble in the brake line or a fluid issue would still fall under “no parts failure.”
He had already been in a wreck before this, so it’s possible that there was damage that caused some other issue that wouldn’t count specifically has a parts failure.
Or maybe Kyle’s foot slipped off the brake pedal? That could be consided driver error.
Or the maybe the team just didn’t want to divulge any information about it.
Great observation I had to go back and watch it again but you’re right he tried to avoid him there’s no way this was driver error. Just because they take the car back to the shop and determine the throttle wasn’t stuck and the brakes work doesn’t mean they did going into that turn
Edit: I think Kyle should come out and make a statement did he screw up or was it mechanical
HMS really gonna throw a defending champion under the bus? WOW
I’m not surprised one bit.
No, not HMS. The talking heads your watching said “driver error”. HMS said no parts failure, these a– clowns said driver error.
Larry, just before the contact with the #42 Cliff ask Kyle if he has the brake fans on. Kyle said “yes but I’m on the pedal really hard”. That tells me they had a brake issue. Brake will get too hot and go away and come back after they cool.
@Lynn Hardy Jr but I’m guessing that you can
I cannot believe Kyle Larson would drive into a corner that way naturally
It was a mechanical failure
There’s no way there wasn’t any mechanical issues, because you can see Larson already trying to turn side ways before he even gets close to the corner, as if he knew something happened and he tried to make an evasive action to avoid hitting a car. Of course he eventually did, but not as hard or as head on as it would’ve been if he kept the racing line. And for a driver like Kyle Larson, to miss a corner that badly is VERY unlike Larson.
It’s so weird that “Driver Error” is coming from Hendrick. It seems like they’re throwing him under the bus but like I can’t see Larson making such a mistake. He’s an amazing driver. Feel bad for Ty, he said it was the biggest hit of his career. Something must’ve gone wrong with the brake. They talked about it in the booth that afterwards Larson said he had a pedal meaning he probably did not going into the corner.
And Larson got hit 2 times before for that and clearly it had to do something with the brakes or throttle stuck but no drivers is gonna just go full speed in a sharp turn like that really can’t believe he said drivers error
I say I’m done and smoke you need a cup champion!
Driver error? Ya right. The reigning Cup champ and one of the legit most talented drivers in the world doesn’t make mistakes like that.
Listened to Door Bumper Clear and Denny said, he had a similar situation under caution.
@Trent Morrison not a bad hypothesis.
Did annyone say its An error?
@H Beerman go back and watch the video yes they did
@highside2020 Larry mac said it but was shaking his head like he didn’t believe the explanation either.
It doesn’t matter what the team says the issue was. It was 150% an issue with the brakes. Maybe not a “failure” but they were literally talking about the brakes right before this happened asking about brake fans and what not. Def not a driver “error”
Maybe the anti lock brake system failed……
During the race I noticed when larson was hit by almirola the right front rim was bent onto the brake caliber theirs no way that was a coincidence
There is absolutely zero possibility that it was driver error. Not even the worst driver that’s ever been in a cup car would try to take a corner at that speed. Let alone the masterful Kyle Larson.
Yeah no shot
I agree I don’t know why they’re calling it driver error. It looks like larson could have been seriously hurt if Ty Dillon car wasn’t in the way.
Reminds me of Bubba Wallace’s wide open throttle crash. Ty was in the right place at the wrong time. Larson could have had a much worse crash if they had not hot each other.
Anyone with Kyle experience. It wasn’t driver. It was machine!!!!
No way that’s driver error. KL knows how to use the brake pedal.
Considering he had already had a hard collision on a wheel that requires repairs (hence why he was 3 laps down), my guess is there was air in the line or something (brake cooling hoses knocked off, broken cooling fans, etc.). There’s no way he overshot the corner that bad and decided to plow into Dillon. There’s no way he was even attempting to send it in that hard considering he was 3 laps down
I believe Kyle. I’ve driven over 3 million miles in my life between bicycles and 18 wheelers. The driver knows what failed him. Every time
No way that was driver error. I also found it odd that Kyle declined to be interviewed after it was over saying he wanted to talk to his team first.
That actually supports some form of driver error.
He blew it and wanted to tell the team he blew it.
His focus was ‘lost’ for half a second maybe and that is all it took.
I smell BS here, and a cover up, as it appears that this gen7 car is unsafe in its current form
How in the HELL can this be a “driver error” from one of the best drivers on planet earth?!?!?! If Kyle Larson just “missed the turn” that fast, they should have given him a damn field sobriety test LOL.
There was no mechanical error which was stated by Hendrick Motorsports
@Deathtrooper204 Then why it shows Larson on the brakes from the red lights on the dash and car wasn’t even stopping?
@Mel Turnboo I don’t think they wven showed that on the broadcast
@Deathtrooper204 nope they didn’t
Kyle Larson is a class act. I am still mad at Nascar for what they did to him.
This was definitely a car problem, you can see Ty Dillion getting out of the car and about to freak out at Kyle, and then Kyle runs over and instantly says something, then Dillion agrees and they’re both instantly calmed down about it. Mechanical failure.
There’s a handful of things that could’ve caused this, which would’ve shown no evidence of a failure once the car cooled down or collided…