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A DEEPER LOOK INTO THE KYLE LARSON AND RYAN PREECE CRASH AT TALLADEGA – NASCAR RACE HUB

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64 comments

Illumi Racing April 24, 2023 at 10:30 pm

I’m suprised that Preece was ok after he took a very hard hit, but looking at Larson’s car, man, that took almost the right side door apart

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mike stanly April 25, 2023 at 3:18 am

LARSON TOOK THE HIT THE 41 DELIVERED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wide open .

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Trey Stine April 25, 2023 at 4:03 am

im willing to bet he has a concussion or tbi but downplayed it at the care center. Theres been a lot of talk and suspicion of drivers doing that, especially with this car.

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Greg Henner April 25, 2023 at 5:35 am

If that hit was on the drivers side Larson would be dead. That bar would took his head off and it would be all over.

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Crunch Bar April 25, 2023 at 1:56 pm

@Trey Stine I’ve seen people with concussions, and I’m gonna be real, you can’t downplay it that easily. The protocol for detecting a concussion is a little bit more than just “you feelin’ okay?”

His eyes aren’t glassy, he’s able to focus on the interviewer, he doesn’t seem to have difficulty with word selection, I’m pretty sure he’s okay.

That said, it’s only a matter of time before we have another horrible concussion as a result of this car being improperly constructed.

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Trey Stine April 25, 2023 at 4:07 pm

@Crunch Bar buddy you are talking to a guy with a moderate traumatic brain injury from a car accident in 2018. I felt like a million bucks after my accident. I was rear ended at a red light, driving a little s10, lady was driving a full size f150 going 55. No airbag deployment, head hit the steering wheel, was knocked unconscious for a near full 15mins. When I woke up I felt amazing and was “elated” as they call it. It was the brains initial jolt and reaction to the damage that had been done. A flood of dopamine to make up for the restructure of the brain. There’s something that’s called a post secondary injury, look it up. The worst effects don’t show up until 3-6months after. That’s when I really lost my mind. I became manic with psychotic features and now to this day lights are 5 times brighter, battling a migraine as I type this along with tinnitus loud enough to make sirens in the distance hard to hear, as well as mood/mental problems that force me to be on psych meds for the rest of my life. Not to mention the vertigo, insomnia and heat intolerance as well.

Unless they have a CAT scan or MRI at the infield care center, it’s definitely possible to downplay a concussion.

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Z Plates April 24, 2023 at 10:43 pm

The impact forced his visor open.

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Itz MaZe April 25, 2023 at 12:59 am

@Cameron Boan Harvick states in the video that your head doesn’t stop until it hits the steering wheel or your knees.

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John Trgovich April 25, 2023 at 1:44 am

Yes . odveious harvi k didn’t get it.its clear the visor dilodged.and popped open.

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Cameron Boan April 25, 2023 at 2:04 am

@Itz MaZe that’s ridiculous. I mean they have a haans device for a reason

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Josh Olsen April 25, 2023 at 3:26 am

Y’all watch it in slo mo frame by frame his visor hits the wheel

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Trent Burge April 25, 2023 at 11:11 am

@John Trgovich his visor was already popped open before impact, it wasn’t fully shut for whatever reason.

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mkwrockers0099 April 24, 2023 at 10:47 pm

We went the entire era of the COT and Gen 6 cars (15 years) without seeing the structure of a roll cage actually fail, but here we are in year two of the Next Gen car and it actually happened. That coupled with the fact that drivers helmets have actually been hitting their steering wheels during some of these accidents and I’d say a lot of work needs to be done to these cars.

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Gary Field April 25, 2023 at 3:15 pm

Come up with one instance, where an accident happened exactly like this in those other cars that you’re talking about. You’re not going to find an example. This has nothing to do with the car. This has everything to do with this being an insane accident that we have not seen.

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Gary Field April 25, 2023 at 3:18 pm

@toyotaecw your example is a wreck at Bristol? That’s cute. But I’m sorry we’ve never seen any of these cars get T-bones at 190MPH

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E Clark April 25, 2023 at 4:10 pm

@Gary Field Ryan new man’s car was destroyed when he flipped. Show me a zero forward speed vs 190 t bone on the other cars. Pretty rare hit

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Smudent April 25, 2023 at 5:56 pm

If the COT had an impact like this I guarantee it would have failed too

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Smudent April 25, 2023 at 6:00 pm

@as_sv97 No, definitely not 100%. The driver is moved away from the left side roll bar and more towards the center of the vehicle in the nextgen for that reason, as well as the reinforced carbon fiber drivers seat that is next to impossible to break

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William Matthews April 24, 2023 at 10:56 pm

Did the welds on the door bars fail on the 5 car? That was an intense hit.

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EclecticHillbilly April 25, 2023 at 4:26 am

@Francis Cyr Most any welded piece will break next to the weld. That’s basic metal fabrication and it applies to anything from race cars to tractor implements. Due to heat transfer, etc, the spot next to the weld becomes the weakest part of the structure.

My opinion would be it’s more to do with poor design than poor craftsmanship or poor materials. They been using the same type of tubing for decades. At any rate, they need to fix this pronto.

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Francis Cyr April 25, 2023 at 5:12 am

@EclecticHillbilly Usually on door bars are gusseted to improve structural integrity, from what I can see it doesn’t appear to be that way on this car.

I‘ve been around short track racing over 40 years and never seen a failure like that. Just say there’s a serious problem somewhere down the line. I agree it needs to be fixed before someone gets a major injury or worse.

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Mel Turnboo April 25, 2023 at 6:51 am

Weilds broke!

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T Wrecks April 25, 2023 at 9:47 am

Its possible that the metal separated .. pulled out… around the welds, too. Could have been a failure in the material and not the weld itself.

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Gforcebond April 25, 2023 at 3:16 pm

@EclecticHillbilly All of a sudden everybody is an engineering expert. Replace the tubing…wtf. lol

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Ghetto Streamlabs April 24, 2023 at 10:57 pm

I hope NASCAR releases material on how, why, and what “failed” in that roll cage – if that’s what happened (hard to tell from the outside camera angles).

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Dodger99 April 24, 2023 at 11:21 pm

Oh the roll cage definitely failed, the top bar in the doors is supposed to be connected to another 3-4 vertical bars and the cars are supposed to be built so none of the roll cage bars ever bend, it would’ve very seriously injured or possibly killed Kyle Larson if that was the drivers side door

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Ryan Pearson April 25, 2023 at 3:05 am

Let’s be honest, they’re wasn’t a fail it did its job but it’s just not designed to be ran into at full speed because why would that happen. I guess we know why now

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Steven A April 25, 2023 at 5:26 am

@Ryan Pearson  what are you talking about? Full speed side impacts happen, they are designed for it, and this one failed.

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Steven A April 25, 2023 at 5:37 pm

@Gary Field  I built these cages prior to nascar outsourcing it to a glorified parts house. Inch and three quarter tubing, .090 wall, four horizontal bars with two studs between each, gussets at every single corner intersection both sides and studs. Our roll cages did not fail on hits just like this, there are late model stock cages that would hold up better than this car.

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CO April 24, 2023 at 11:23 pm

Glad both drivers were ok

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Mark McLaughlin April 24, 2023 at 11:35 pm

The violence of that impact cannot be understated.

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Hellcat9k April 25, 2023 at 3:09 am

Fair, but similar types of crashes in the past haven’t looked this severe, I genuinely think it’s because of how “Rigid” these cars are, definitely some of the most unsafe Nascars I’ve ever seen in a while.

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Connar Downes April 25, 2023 at 11:26 am

​@Hellcat9k Nascars???? National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing. its NASCAR stock car!

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WP SN April 24, 2023 at 11:35 pm

With that degree of roll cage failure, had that impact been driver’s side on Larson, it could have been a fatal accident. Big chunks of sharp roll cage metal shoving inward into the cockpit is a lethal combination.

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Ryan Schaff April 25, 2023 at 1:06 am

Nope, driver side of the cage is completely different than the passenger side. Drivers side is completely encased in steel surrounding the driver, there is no open bars like on the passenger side.

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Joshua Pierce April 25, 2023 at 2:39 am

These cars are built so solid they don’t bend or flex they snap, that’s the bad part about being so solid, solid will take a ton of force, but then it’ll just blow apart and snap, like a grade 8 bolt vs grade 5, grade 8 will hold a tremendous amount of pressure but when it’s too much it just snaps, now grade 5 won’t hold as much force but when it won’t snap either, it’ll bend and flex, that’s the danger with these cars, they don’t bend or flex they’re too solid, and this right here is why being to solid is more dangerous, cuz when it finally meets too much force, boom, it just snaps, it doesn’t bend or flex and absorb force, it just snaps, and snapping is way more dangerous then bending or flexing

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wingracer 16 April 25, 2023 at 2:46 am

@Ryan Schaff Not only that, those bars are not pushed in as much as it looks. They are not right out to the outside of the car up against the door panel. They are actually about inline with the inside edge of the tires, a good foot at least in from the door, that gap being filled with just foam.

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John Carter April 24, 2023 at 11:42 pm

The bar failure probably helped Preece from suffering an injury because it lessened the g-force some.

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Long John April 25, 2023 at 6:57 am

While true if he had hit the drivers side instead it could have been deadly for Larson

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Jonathan Gilbert April 25, 2023 at 11:51 am

@Long John i Agree nascar realy need to make more advancements in next gen car safety this is unacceptable

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Crunch Bar April 25, 2023 at 1:57 pm

Usually the guys plowing into the side of other cars aren’t the ones who get injured.

NOTE: I AM NOT BLAMING PREECE FOR THIS INCIDENT. MERELY STATING THE FACT THAT HIS CAR HIT LARSON’S, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

If Larson had broadsided Preece, it would’ve been more likely for Preece to be injured and Larson to be okay.

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Steve CUDDZILLA April 24, 2023 at 11:46 pm

Had that impact been on the drivers side of Larson’s car, we might be having a completely different conversation.

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Jordan Vanderheyden April 25, 2023 at 11:48 am

@Cody Hackl no I was there it finished at lap 196 double overtime

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alex devine April 25, 2023 at 2:16 pm

The driver’s side of the car is probably 5 times Stronger than that side of the car ..

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cupchamp5 April 25, 2023 at 4:25 pm

These cars are becoming more dangerous. Won’t be long before someone ends up killed. It already ended one career, almost ended another. These cars are deathtraps

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Smudent April 25, 2023 at 5:59 pm

Not necessarily. The driver is moved away from the left side roll bar and more towards the center of the vehicle in the nextgen for that reason, as well as the reinforced carbon fiber drivers seat that is next to impossible to break

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Smudent April 25, 2023 at 5:59 pm

@1320crusier wrong

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onethumbks April 24, 2023 at 11:51 pm

What do you expect when they build the front of the cars to be like a bulldozer? I still go to the very first crash, Logano in practice for last year’s 500. Head on hit, the front crumpled about 3”. They wanted a car that won’t bend and crumple as much to keep more cars on track. Well, they got it. Apparently not a single person in the series understands physics because it’s been 50 years or more since a series created such a rigid car.

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Cameron Boan April 25, 2023 at 12:50 am

I was thinking the same thing. If there was a crumble that would have been a way softer hit

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Mark Tucker April 25, 2023 at 10:21 am

Exactly this, this is the big problem. Look how the previous cars crashed. These cars are too rigid. We know this causes all sorts of problems.

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Greg Henner April 25, 2023 at 2:53 pm

You would think NASCAR would’ve learned their lesson in 2001

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Cooperplays23 April 25, 2023 at 12:08 am

It shows how much these impacts are that you can see his virser shoot up and him shoot forward. You can see the pure pain in his eyes and how much it takes to go through a crash like that. These drivers are so tough and just think If this was on Larsons door. I don’t think we would have a Kyle Larson racing ever again if the happend. Thank god there ok

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Troy Kall April 25, 2023 at 12:13 am

It’s very sad to see Ryan having such bad luck he has had very good race cars and has raced good but has always getting wrecked by others

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Bobby Ackerson April 25, 2023 at 12:44 am

Lol yeah ok

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Long John April 25, 2023 at 6:58 am

Blaney has been having the same problem all year which is why he said enough is enough and punted Bubba

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AcidSquidArtStudio April 25, 2023 at 11:58 am

Ryan is useless

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Kyle Cooper April 25, 2023 at 12:14 am

Good on Fox and Larry Mac for actually calling this out and not pandering to NASCAR. There are some serious issues with this generation car.

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Chris W. April 25, 2023 at 8:32 am

I’m surprised this crash ever saw the light of day again. If not for the huge seats these drivers sit in, Larson would’ve been in bad shape if not worse. Would’ve loved to see a Larson in-car.

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Allen Capps April 25, 2023 at 12:41 am

Glad my man Larson is okay I can’t imagine if that would have been drivers side.

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Jimmy, Making it work April 25, 2023 at 12:46 am

It seems like many want the cars indestructible and at the same time able to absorb the energy. The problem is in the real world of physics, you don’t get both and have to compromise between them.

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Skynet April 25, 2023 at 12:49 am

Cameras have come a long way from not glitching out during hard impact. Glad everyone is ok. But damn, a solid for those cameras.

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tagnut1952 April 25, 2023 at 12:57 am

Incredible impact. Hurts just to watch it.

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Ashton Good April 25, 2023 at 1:11 am

That was one hell of a race glad everyone was ok lets win again at Dover Kyle Busch

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Brendan April 25, 2023 at 2:39 pm

Harvick is so cool. Running races then analyzing them afterwards on TV

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