Horsepower has been a big debate all over the NASCAR world. From teams, to drivers, fans, and even NASCAR itself everyone has some sort of opinion on what should be done. Today I want to look a bit at why I think that ultimately the fans and drivers will win the horsepower debate. Why NASCAR may go back to high horsepower.
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Do you think NASCAR will add horsepower back to the cars?
It depends how people see this years short track races
Yes…..
Probably
yes
PLEASE for the love of god we need it it will produce better racing especially at short tracks
It won’t though, guys like Reddick have tried it in the sim and the power increase they can do in the car without hybrids (up from 670 to 750) was essentially imperceptible
The short tracks need a major overhaul. Horsepower can only do so much compared to asphalt surface, tires, and aero
I think adding horsepower is the way to go
I think the reason that NASCAR is so hesitant to raise horsepower right now is because they are waiting for some sort of hybrid package to do it
if that’s what it takes to have high horsepower back, im for it
@@hetterman10r9abso-effing-lutely not. We need the high RPM sound too. That’s part of the experience. Call me what you want.
@@hughjoelcock7145have you heard some of the Le Mans/endurance style racing cars sound like as hybrids? They can still sound mean and high rpm and be hybrid.
They won’t go back to high horsepower, they went to keep speeds below 200mph.
@@christianmoody8142 you can still do that with high horsepower cars. There are other factors involved with top speed that Nascar can use to limit.. ie aero drag. Nascar has been very public about the low horsepower being to help save costs on engine rebuilds. These current engines are more than capable of having a couple hundred more horsepower, but nascar limits them so they don’t have to endure as much wear and tear over the course of one race. Similar to how F1 teams preserve their engines to last as long as possible, they are only allowed a certain number per season, so they dont push them 100% more like 80%.
If you want great racing, make the cars difficult to drive. Start with less grip in the tires, either in width or by adding more horsepower.
The cars are already sh*t to drive. Hear there it hurt way more wrecking then Gen 6 did. Gen 6. Racing was better in the late 90’s early 2000’s. I want to see good racing not guys slam into each other because the car doesn’t stick when it should.
@@EViLGrEEn42090I thought door slamming paint trading beating and banging racing is what Nascar fans wanted here is another prime example of fans not being able to make up their minds either of what they want like honestly
Less grip could mean more crashes, and we gave to think about driver security
I was at darlington in 2014, I don’t remember much about the race itself, but hearing the sound of 900 hp all weekend was like nothing else. I hadn’t been to a race since then till last year. I went to pocono, and it was good, but it’s just not the same. We need 800hp+.
Oor making cars Lighter and with better Gearing, so Engines can run on ideal RPM range during more time, increasing Torque… and that would improve Acceleration and traction on short tracks
It’s crazy to think that there was a time when Cup Series stock cars had more power than F1 cars, especially the F1 cars from the 2.4 V8 engine formula from 2006-2013, which had around 800 horsepower. Fast forward to the present and now the Next-gen Car has 670 hp, which is around 300 less than F1’s 1.6l hybrid power units which makes a combined output of around 1000 hp.
And the F1 car would still be faster. Horsepower alone doesn’t make a good car.
A fun fact: around that time, the mean piston speed in the NASCAR Cup V8 engine was about the same as the 2.4L V8 in F1 (26.9 m/s). At 9,800 RPM, the cup series V8 had a mean piston speed of 26.95 meters per second. Though now, at around 9k, it is about 24.75 m/s.
I love your optimism (which optimism from you is quite rare) but ill believe it when I see it. Steve Phelps comments over the off-season crushed any optimism I had left.
Racing is all about being able to handle the beast beneath you. More power, more skill gaps
The short tracks at the end of last season were honestly pretty good, not gen 6 levels of good but definitely a huge improvement
Eh, still a snoozer. And come next year, TexARSE and Kentucky’s demon spawn is debuting where Fontana used to be
Gimmicky soft tires helped for once. Goodyears have been Swiss cheese for years though.
If they went with 750 AND made the tires thinner i think that would fix a lot of problems
The problem is, with the way the cars are designed, going skinnier tires and more power would be disastrous, as there literally would not be enough grip for the cars to handle making it through a corner, or even accelerating at short tracks and road courses
I don’t think narrower tires are an option, it would probably be easier to put a smaller diffuser instead of the regular one on short tracks
“Power and speed!” – Jeremy Clarkson
I think 750 to 900 would be a good range to hit.
I’ll believe when I see it, the elites of the sport who wield power are too stubborn or beholden to other interests to do something simple and smart
At this point, I would do ANYTHING for high horse power to return
Another thing hurting both of them are the stage cautions
Harvs take on this on the DJD was on point. He said that if the cars would break loose and burn the tires off when the driver put thier foot down, would force them to think about how and when they put the power down which would change the racing.
NASCAR could go to much higher HP engines but I think they are afraid to do that on the grounds of safety issues with cars going faster and getting airborne. Now they could keep the speeds down by changing tire widths to reduce the mechanical grip of the cars which would slow them down but make it entertaining to see the drivers put the power of 900 or 1k+ HP beasts to the ground. That would require a lot of tire development. No matter what it’ll cost money.
I am glad you mentioned 750hp likely wouldn’t do much. People don’t realize an increase from 670 to 750 is a way different beast to increasing it to 900 and actually would require a lot of money to be spent. Hybridization is they way to go. More power plus hybrid components which is way more relevant to the manufactures is how you increase hp.