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The EVOLUTION Of NASCAR Overtime

Over the years NASCAR has changed just about every piece of what it is, from uniquely NASCAR things being changed to fundamental racing things being skewed. With that being said one of the biggest changes that has been fluid in recent years is the finish itself. Today we will look back at the evolution of NASCAR Overtime.

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41 comments

@TheIceberg February 7, 2024 at 12:01 am

What is your favorite form of NASCAR overtime?

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@RedneckJesus88 February 7, 2024 at 12:07 am

When they ended the race under yellow

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@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498 February 7, 2024 at 12:07 am

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@dpra2827 February 7, 2024 at 12:08 am

I like todays version of OT. While some say it’s a gimmick or the unlimited attempts are stupid, we rarely see any more than 3. 1 was too little and the double file restarts made it better.

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@kylebuschfanroadto February 7, 2024 at 12:10 am

the one GWC or the 3 tries at overtime

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@JackLikesTrackhouse February 7, 2024 at 12:26 am

@@dpra2827choose cone also makes it better since drivers choose where to start rather than having it be entirely position dependent

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@JGR4LIFE February 7, 2024 at 12:07 am

It’s crazy how overtime was made because of the meltdown that the Dale Jr fans had at Talladega in 2004 then it became one of the most hated things that’s ever happened in NASCAR(due to Talladega 2015). Talk about coming in full circle. Hypocrites being hypocrites.

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@mochanado292 February 7, 2024 at 12:17 am

might as well call it junior time

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@combatking20 February 7, 2024 at 12:33 am

Need to say it later for the folks in the back who are hard of hearing.

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@S.K.R.E.Inc. February 7, 2024 at 12:50 am

They only liked it if Dale Jr was on the winning side of a situation, and raged when it went against them

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@JackLikesTrackhouse February 7, 2024 at 12:17 am

I’m personally heavily in favour of overtime, but it probably shouldn’t be any more than 3 attempts.

That said, we wouldn’t have gotten that historic Xfinity Daytona finish where there was a 0.000 separation between the top 2.

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@TheSlothNerd64 February 7, 2024 at 12:19 am

That “one attempt” for thar 2015 Talladega fall race, was so frustrating and stupid. Still hate that race.

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@JackLikesTrackhouse February 7, 2024 at 12:28 am

Yeah ending under yellow or the one attempt rule would basically be begging for drivers to pull a Harvick every chance they could without getting caught.

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@NinjaMario02 February 7, 2024 at 12:31 am

Especially when an attempt was waved off after a wreck on the restart and then Harvick intentionally wrecking the field made it worse.

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@joshleyva2249 February 7, 2024 at 2:15 am

OT = Wrecks

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@NinjaMario02 February 7, 2024 at 3:58 pm

@seandamenacee4767  iirc, it was not only for safety after Austin Dillions crash from the July Daytona race, but it was to “balance the number of exciting finishes.”
So it was as if they were asking for a botched finish, and this is what we got.

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@blastonightfb77ryan86 February 7, 2024 at 12:19 am

I think what we currently have is the best possible overtime format a race could have, but then again, maybe one day it’ll get exposed just like every other system, but until that day comes I think we’ve got it good right now.

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@S.K.R.E.Inc. February 7, 2024 at 12:47 am

All they had to was make it a 5 lap shootout as overtime, 2 is too short

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@whalesequence February 7, 2024 at 1:15 am

Did you watch the truck series finale this past year by any chance.

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@sammattox7945 February 7, 2024 at 2:13 am

It already has been exposed. Endless overtime means endless wrecking. See the most recent COTA cup race, pretty much any superspeedway race, trucks, etc

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld February 7, 2024 at 4:10 am

​@@whalesequenceyeah the truck series finale was pathetic but thats once in a blue moon type Overtimes.

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@nascarfanatic2425 February 7, 2024 at 5:03 am

We already crossed that bridge a long time ago, but to each their own.

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@NR_88 February 7, 2024 at 12:24 am

Honestly I don’t mind the current system. The only change I would make is limiting it to 3 attempts at road courses and superspeedways. And if someone tries to pull a Harvick nascar should throw the book at them.

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld February 7, 2024 at 4:07 am

I wouldn’t limit it too 3 at Road courses though. Just limit it to 1 at Daytona Talladega and Atlanta.

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@NASCARFAN93100 February 7, 2024 at 12:25 am

One attempt at GWC is the best

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@polycube868 February 7, 2024 at 3:57 pm

Agreed, multiple GWC and drivers act stupid, and it just drags on forever…I’d much rather a race end at scheduled distance under yellow than to take 2 hours, 2 red flags and 3 GWC to finish, that’s just annoying.

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@SuperNASCARrocks February 7, 2024 at 12:28 am

The best version they had of this was 3 attempts at a GWC and the next flag ended the race

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@noahcoleman5556 February 7, 2024 at 12:39 am

I like the 2010-15 3 GWC’s. I find it kind of weird that the reason cited why they changed it in 2015 was in response to the Austin Dillon crash, even though there was only 1 GWC that night/morning, and it happened as they were crossing the line to finish.

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@seandamenacee4767 February 7, 2024 at 3:22 pm

I agree

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@johnvandeventer8668 February 7, 2024 at 12:41 am

In 2013 Spring Talladega for both the Xfinity and the cup series race, they only did one attempt at overtime because of darkness instead of 3

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@Joshua8824Racing February 7, 2024 at 12:46 am

There is no better option as far as overtime. I think the best thing to do is to get rid of unlimited attempts and go back to either one attempt or three attempts. Getting rid of it ain’t gonna work because people are gonna be upset about races ending under caution again.

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@timharwell6803 February 7, 2024 at 12:53 am

I like how this is, with a slight tweak: If the caution comes out after the white flag, then, and only then, are they allowed to race back to the checkered, but once the winner takes the checkered, the field is frozen at that moment.

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@michaeltodd2405 February 7, 2024 at 12:54 am

Some times the old scheduled distance worked out. 1999 Daytona 500.

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@chrisguardiano6143 February 7, 2024 at 1:03 am

As a fan of both F1 & Indycar in addition to NASCAR, I am very surprised that either series has yet to adopt the GWC finish. Indycar still has the racing back to the line rule in its rule book though I haven’t seen this in Indycar in almost 20 years. Racing back to the line largely ended after the death of Dan Wheldon due to how dangerous it is. Instead Indycar has just ended the race if there is a caution on the last lap. However in recent years Indycar has also introduced a race clock usually set around 2 hours meaning if the race can’t conclude within that time frame, everyone is given half points based on where they were when the clock reached zero or where they qualified in the case of races that don’t get started due to weather delays. F1 also uses the race clock but it rarely reaches zero in most cases as F1 also has both the virtual safety car & a safety car to make sure laps & the allotted race distance are still completed. The only time that F1 has had an issue with the race clock was at the Belgian GP a couple of years ago where the majority of the time was spent in the paddock due to terrible conditions after running only a couple of laps under the safety car & the FIA simply let the clock run out.

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@GinoLaMainFroide February 7, 2024 at 4:03 am

F1 can’t do GWC because of the no refueling rule. The closest thing they could do is to abuse the red flag rules like they did in Australia last year, but given how poorly it ended, I don’t think they’ll try it again soon.

They actually suspended the race clock for more than hour in Spa in 2021 citing force majeure, it’s just that visibility to start the race was never good enough. A better example of race clock messing up things is Suzuka 2022, as they could only do half ot the race (but to be fair, given how dark it was getting in the end, I think a red flag was near, clock or not).

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@stephenholloway6893 February 7, 2024 at 1:04 am

Actually the no racing back to the line rule went into effect the following weekend at Dover in 2003.

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@MoneyMikeProductions316 February 7, 2024 at 1:08 am

Just make it one attempt at a GWC finish and no more attempts afterwards. Too many wrecks and crashes that could have been avoided if there was only one restart, especially if NASCAR is all about saving teams money then go back to one GWC only. I think you can bring back racing back to the line… as long as it is safe to do so. If a car crashes on the backstretch, that has no impact on getting back to the start/finish line so let them race back to the line in those situations. The 2021 Daytona 500 where McDowell won, the crash was behind them so let the leaders race back to the line. Would have been fun to see Chase & McDowell racing back to the line for the win.

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@MarvelMTs February 7, 2024 at 3:08 am

“Gimmick racing, it’s gonna happen…” *That comment aged like fine wine*

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@ShieldGarage_5 February 7, 2024 at 3:45 am

I like what Dale Jr. said:
Do one attempt, just one, then leave

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@karlcalvert812 February 7, 2024 at 4:07 am

To avoid Newman’s wreck they should have thrown the caution for Elliott’s spin on the final lap

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@JCBeckner February 7, 2024 at 7:20 am

The red flag coming out to get a green finish can be traced back to the 1998 spring race at Richmond. Dale Jarrett fans can probably tell you how they felt about that.

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