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0:00 Fuel Racing at Daytona
4:50 Phelps talks international racing, new manufacturers, more
7:15 Latest charter drama
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I like a combination: No stage cautions AND making stage lengths coincide with fuel runs. Also – a question: If NASCAR can “make” a track in the Coliseum rather quickly, why will it take California Speedway so long?
The colosseum already has grandstands, concession stands, walls, and all they really had to do is pave the place
You need to do all that, and add a garage for the teams. PLUS they also need to make sure that the new track isn’t going into sold off land
It’s about the amenities. The Coliseum already has those in place, so all NASCAR has to do is pave it and build the walls. With the new California Speedway, they’re essentially starting from scratch. Building a track and amenities such as bathrooms, thus needing plumbing, gas lines, Wi-Fi, cellular connection, A/C, new garages, media center, Infield care center, elevators, escalators, handicap accesses, food and drink storage, television screens, audio speakers, and lights. There’s a lot that has to go into building a track, and those materials ain’t cheap, which doesn’t help because building in California is crazy expensive. And with any major construction project, there’s political red-tape that has to be dealt with as well, tax maneuvering, kickbacks, and most expensive of all, labor. That’s why it’s taking so long to get going
As long as there are stage points they are gonna race like A-holes to the line and cause a caution anyways.
@@shaynejenkins446 there usually isnt a crash when coming to the end of a stage, especially in cup
A lot of it is getting zoning and permits done… because anything involving the government takes way longer than it should lol
If they’re not careful they can destroy what is left. Both sides need to be careful.
If they don’t chill out they are headed for a IRL/Cart like split. IRL owned the biggest track(nascar Daytona and others) teams split from nascar with owners and SMI since they own most the other tracks. Incorporate more short tracks etc really teams have all the power bc SMI only has to host a NASCAR race they can have other series race there too
Watkins Glen International
Daytona International Speedway
Talladega Superspeedway
Homestead Miami Speedway
Auto Club Speedway
Darlington Raceway
Kansas Speedway
Chicagoland Speedway
Michigan International Speedway
ISM Raceway
Martinsville Speedway
Richmond Raceway
Route 66 Raceway
It would suck to lose a few of these but hey NASCAR needs the teams more then they need them. Because if they don’t have full fields the TV deal would void
I’d LOVE NASCAR to go to Long Beach. I’m biased though, I live right next to the street course here lol
Us patiently waiting for the charter agreement to finally get announced…
The group I was watching were literally in disbelief when we noticed AJ gaining on the pack all on his own then seeing the cars at 175 mph. Absolutely insanity early on
I was in disbelief when they said it on TV. It’s not good. Daytona should not have drivers going 175.
Isn’t there an expression you have to slow down to speed up?
@@JBAlternate Yeah, biggest race of the year and everybody is going 50% to start the 500.
@@buckman840 Well, they achieved one of those two things for sure.
I have actually always hated the whole fuel saving strategy and I don’t like the whole taking hp away and limiting the amount of rpms they can turn the biggest reason why u are seeing the huge wrecks is because there is no room in the packs to make passes u to be able to have power in the engine when u break the draft to pass
Umm they’ve always been in big packs that’s the nature of superspeedway racing….
@@truckercowboyed2638 I know I’m just saying that u need power to be able to pass
You have to have a drafting partner to pass, especially since 1988 when the restricted plate was in stated. Originally it was a 1 inch plate so they had a little more power than then they do now. I think if they want to cut speed back work with the electronic fuel injection system, and get rid of the restrictor plate.
@@linhunnicutt6556 right and I know that I don’t like that fact that we can’t side draft like the old car I get that u need drafting partner I just don’t like following the leader
As far as where NASCAR could go for a race in Sothern California, I live close to Willow Springs Raceway, and although it has no infostructure what so ever, it would be a great historic venue for NASCAR to try, plus they actually have raced there before, way back in the 50s
I think I have seen that track on a game somewhere. I wouldn’t mind a race at Laguna Seca.
That track is abysmal. They’d be better off at button willow
@@Copperhead-sz1rr Laguna Seca will never host a Nascar event
@@BeautifulAngelBlossom Relax. It was just a personal curiosity I would like to see. Later.
@@DanieleBoysFilms yeah probably, was more of a pipe dream
This is Bernie versus the F1 teams in 2009… Teams need to stay a united front and not meet with NACAR on NASCAR’s terms. And, with around 80% of races being run on NASCAR owned tracks, NASCAR needs to start forking over more money to the independent tracks and teams.
Here’s the thing. You can’t unlearn anything. NASCAR drivers learned saving fuel is valuable with the current package, and I’m certain even without the package and stage breaks, at this point, one team and it’s partners would figure out that over a full distance that making one less stop at Daytona gains you far more than what you lose at the pace you’d run to achieve that.
Either way, I think trying to effectively outlaw fuel mileage racing is both a stupid premise and a draconian one. You can’t recreate past conditions that knowledge evolved away from.
Ya if there’s one thing I’ve learned from motorsports, is that teams are always looking for an edge no matter how many rules a sanctioning body puts
“Drivers complaining about the fuel saving strategy.” My Brethren in Christ, YOU drive the cars! It’s your call overall whether to follow the strategy, ignore it, or make up a new one! With all of them slowing down, I’m surprised that a bunch of other drivers didn’t go “It’s free real estate!”
Blaney and the other guy that couldn’t make it on fuel did just that, which is why everyone had to make a stop before stage end anyway
Its more than that. Its team orders and wanting to be there at the end
You don’t have a choice if you want to win.
Save on fuel save on cost…. I honestly believe this was a silent way to protest charter issues
Ironic that NASCAR fans myself included crap on F1 for rejecting Andretti . But many of those same fans defend the teams for wanting to set up an F1 like power structure, that will keep new teams out. The Charter system has already kept new teams out.
This is what I’m thinking. I read that they want permanent charters and more say in how things are ran. I don’t understand how this is any different from having a franchise in the NFL. And it’s probably good for the sport, but I feel like there is a little hypocrisy among the fans on the issue.
@@JCBecknerWe all know fans are fickle at the best of times.
the deal with f1 and andretti is the f1 team owners did not want andretti in because that would cut in to there money they didn’t want to share unlike nascar they have a vote who get in and who don’t. the charter as long you have the money and find some one that sell to you can go racing. the days some guy who has a shop behind his house and racing in cup are long gone.
@SHOE53 Andretti can buy a spot on the F1 grid but nobody is selling. Just like nobody is selling in NASCAR. NASCAR by the way could add charters and give them to say JR Motorsports, but current teams don’t want that as it would dilute the charter purse . The teams in NASCAR may not be voting on it but the system isn’t too different. The end result is still the same slow teams like Haas in F1 and Rick Ware in NASCAR are protected from being displaced by someone else building faster cars with faster drivers inside.
I hope they don’t make the fuel cells like half. They tried it in Talladega in 2002 and it broke up the pack. I was there at that race in person, a caution free Talladega of all races lol
Great race.
One of the best races I ever watched
Don’t need cautions people who only want wrecks are pathetic
Should be NO stage breaks for the Daytona 500.
No cautions period for “stages”….
Should be no stages at all
Rolling around Daytona at 60% throttle should never happen. It was super obvious and looked bad. The real only answer is to make it an attrition race again. They need to raise the HP and lower the fuel cell capacity. No stages, no stage cautions no stage points….none. It will bring about green flag pit stops, and pit crews will make more of a difference. Stage points with no caution doesn’t change them wrecking at the line every time for points and bringing out the caution anyways.
Although teams should have better results from negotiation with nascar, I don’t want NASCAR to become F1 where teams have even more power than the sanction organization (FIA), the rules are clear, we can’t make a deal on something but the most power should be on the organization and not on the teams. It is like having a party in your house and suddenly you have rude guests that want to change your building needs.
Ya it’s a difficult balance for sure
I’m for eliminating the stage cautions! Keep the normal flow of a race. All tracks should eliminate stage cautions ⚠️
Definitely agree this is the best way
The caution is never going away everybody has to be 100% educated No opinions about it
@johnhaas2523 Oh, I know they are never going away. Nascar and some folks are idiots. I have no fantasies about the cautions going away but a guy can dream.
I like the stage cautions but hate counting 10 yellow laps between.
Get the procedure organized so that the breaks only last 4 laps at most and don’t count those laps.
The stage should actually be 60 laps long, not 52 with 8 laps of manufactured caution.
Actual caution laps are bad enough.
I’d be happy if they didn’t count yellow laps at all.
The fact they had to say that aboit the stand alone or exhibition race that they are not thinking about, you know right there they have been
It’s a fascinating power struggle. In most other US sports leagues, the franchise owners own the league and hire a commissioner (like Roger Goodell) to run it. In NASCAR, the franchises are just participants and they don’t get to pick a new “commissioner” to run it if say, hypothetically, the league goes from boom to bust over the past couple decades.
@MarkBco
NASCAR is authoritarian, and in the form of a dictatorship. Family ran, and their agenda is first.
I’ve been a NASCAR fan for over 50 years but every season and most of the races something knew happens I’ve went along with all the changes over the years and took up for them and told a lot of fan to just wait and see how it works out most do but it’s getting hard every season to take up for NASCAR’ and hard to find some races on TV I hope they get it worked out soon before I give up on watching cause I love NASCAR racing and Bristol is my home track, I was there when Dale Sr. Won his first race and when he wrecked Terry for the win I love that smell at the track when they are racing, let’s hope they get everything in house fixed sooner than later just my 2 cent. Keep up the good work Eric you are the only channel I watch regularly besides recaps on NASCAR Fox and NBC