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Drivers have mixed reactions to a proposed Watkins Glen change. Did Kyle Larson just win throwback weekend? Let's take an analytical look at this weekend's Cup Series race at Dover!

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51 comments

@lionelnextelstudios0.282 April 25, 2024 at 6:26 pm

The terry labonte throwback is the best one since the ross chastain dei throwback

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@jeremyharper3462 April 25, 2024 at 7:41 pm

I agree. Don’t forget trackhouse did both cars that weekend. The Suarez version wasn’t as cool as the #1, but it was pretty close.

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@BraydenBunch58 April 25, 2024 at 8:47 pm

Yeah But Teresa Had To Make Them Change It 🙁

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@gamez4420 April 26, 2024 at 1:45 am

​@@BraydenBunch58 you’d think she’d be running out of money by now and willing to make some kinda deals for rights to use Dale Sr/DEI imagery.

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@braydenheady7971 April 25, 2024 at 6:27 pm

I’m goin to Watkins Glen in September I can see a flip now

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@EricEstepp April 25, 2024 at 6:42 pm

Might see a car fly to the moon

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@johnathanjohnson5367 April 25, 2024 at 7:15 pm

I don’t think so it takes a lot to flip now I’m sure you are probably thinking about the 2011 flip that was because because of a crash and what wall he hit nothing do with weight of the car

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@braydenheady7971 April 25, 2024 at 7:25 pm

@@johnathanjohnson5367 I know what you’re sayin I don’t think it actually would cause a flip just makin fun of the curbs plus I was also in there in 2011 also

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@braydenheady7971 April 25, 2024 at 9:42 pm

@@GortTheCapybara320 I’m camping from Wednesday through Sunday

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@JayStephens8 April 25, 2024 at 6:29 pm

So glad they are finally running the cornflakes scheme hopefully they run the frosted flakes scheme next

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@EricEstepp April 25, 2024 at 6:43 pm

Frosted Flakes has to be next haha

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@NASCARTATUM April 26, 2024 at 3:25 pm

​@@EricEstepphi

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@iceeblueburst03 April 25, 2024 at 6:31 pm

Love the Terry Labonte throwback scheme, definitely going onto the top throwbacks of this year! Can’t wait to see what other throwbacks we’ll get!

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@jeremiegranger7285 April 25, 2024 at 6:32 pm

We going to see big wrecks at the bus stop. I could see this repeating the 2021 Indy Road Course in the Cup and Xfinity Series.

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@camaroboy1968ss April 25, 2024 at 6:42 pm

that is what I thought too when I saw the pictures. Someone is gonna get pinched down there, or your gonna have more people miss the corner all together due to a car on the inside line push them out.

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@jeremiegranger7285 April 25, 2024 at 6:45 pm

​@@camaroboy1968ssI could imagine the big one happening on lap 1.

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@johnathanjohnson5367 April 25, 2024 at 7:13 pm

I think it will work out way better than Indy

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@hw919_ April 25, 2024 at 6:35 pm

So, the problem with the bus stop is the G force from cutting the corner. So, nascar adds a bigger curb. They will still drive over it.

Honestly, they should consider making the curb lower and embracing the cut or consider adding a tire wall to prevent the cut all together.

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@tescoshortage April 25, 2024 at 7:03 pm

If it completely destroys the car, they can’t drive over the curb.

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@johnathanjohnson5367 April 25, 2024 at 7:18 pm

​@@tescoshortageand think about the tires the cup cars has thin tires vs the Xfinity cars and the Arca cars so those cars have thicker tires so it absorbs more vs the thin tires which I’m sure people who put thin tires on their vehicles can probably relate when going over a speed bump even going slow it still doesn’t feel good

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@dannyalex7152 April 25, 2024 at 6:44 pm

That throwback scheme for Larson is the BEST Throwback I have ever seen… who knows if even Trackhouse can match that with their throwback schemes…

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@nathan1sixteen April 25, 2024 at 6:44 pm

The reason the drivers are seeing so many G’s is because the cup cars are so stiff now. The Xfinity cars are WAY more forgiving.

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@nikkoperrella April 25, 2024 at 7:58 pm

Again, I’m calling BS, I need a better explanation on how they’re experiencing 11g’s there. F1 guys peak at about 5g’s. The space shuttle is about 9-10g’s.

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@Kamik62 April 25, 2024 at 8:38 pm

​@@nikkoperrellathat’s a lot of gs

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@submarinesammy April 26, 2024 at 5:00 pm

​@@nikkoperrellaThe difference is shock vs acceleration. Kyle’s data is shock data (hammer). The space shuttle example is acceleration (centrifuge).

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@Hunter4829 April 25, 2024 at 6:45 pm

Watkins Glen should be sponsored by Allegiant. Those bus stops will have those cars higher than 3CHI.

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@miketwotwenty April 25, 2024 at 8:16 pm

They should’ve left the track alone!

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@Yeetmaster94 April 25, 2024 at 10:43 pm

@@miketwotwentyI can’t find a flaw in his logic, this change is bs, years of no complaints, and now they decide to change it?!?!

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@miketwotwenty April 25, 2024 at 10:48 pm

@@Yeetmaster94 I agree!

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@aloelover6012 April 26, 2024 at 5:37 am

​@@Yeetmaster94 Probably a vocal minority of fans asked for this.

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@BestGuy2103 April 25, 2024 at 6:48 pm

Oh yay sausage kerbs in NASCAR. Totally wanted that after all the great things that have happened with sausage kerbs in F1

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@benwalter4842 April 25, 2024 at 7:13 pm

F1, WEC, Lemans, Australian Supercars, BTCC, and DTM.

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@BestGuy2103 April 25, 2024 at 7:57 pm

@@benwalter4842 pretty much FIA lmao

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@letto18 April 25, 2024 at 8:37 pm

*Charlotte Roval enters the chat*

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@HMSTITANS April 25, 2024 at 9:43 pm

Stay off the curbs… problem solved. It’s the driver’s responsibility to stay on the track. If you make corners that can be cut, they will be. Drivers are going to be more willing to risk a penalty from NASCAR for cutting a corner than they are to risk penalty from damaging the race car. What’s the point of having a “racing surface” if you don’t have to stay on it? Drivers cutting the dogleg at Phoenix ( I think it’s ridiculous that NASCAR allows it) and don’t mind the jolt can’t very well complain about the jolt when they hit the curbing at a road course.

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@BestGuy2103 April 25, 2024 at 10:48 pm

@@HMSTITANS That’s not the issue. If a driver hits the curbing, there’s a small chance they flip, and similar curbs have killed drivers across the world. It’s simply dangerous

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@jabber1990 April 25, 2024 at 6:49 pm

you’re right, the Bus Stop isn’t broken, Turn 1 is Broken. the lack of Track Limits destroys the racing

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@bearmarsh6579 April 25, 2024 at 6:53 pm

Hands down the best throwback scheme…Kyle Larson’s #5 car what a great tribute to Terry Labonte.

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@twoblacklabs904 April 25, 2024 at 10:31 pm

Now imagine an actual Kellogg’s Corn Flakes partnership w/Terry, Kyle and the #5 Kellogg’s car all over their cereal boxes…
It’s a missed opportunity if you ask me…

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@bearmarsh6579 April 25, 2024 at 10:35 pm

It still looks great…

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@nothinghere7391 April 25, 2024 at 7:05 pm

I can see why Kyle is the one supporting the Watkins Glen change and those with no Cup Series experience don’t see the point. Most other stock cars don’t run very stiff setups, their construction isn’t rock hard either, which we could see for years when drivers were jumping the curbs at Sonoma, for example…

The Gen7 is unbelievably stiff, not only with its construction, but also the suspension setups teams use to maximize speed and get as much downforce as they can from the underbody.

That’s why Kyle feels like his brain is getting rattled around in his head over the curbs

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@miketwotwenty April 25, 2024 at 8:22 pm

Yeah but the gen 7 races similar to a gt car!

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@nothinghere7391 April 25, 2024 at 7:10 pm

You said that “Gen7 doesn’t jump the curbs as much, because it’s closer to a sportscar”.
It’s much more similar to a V8 Supercar and they are FAMOUS for flying over the curbs

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@andrewwaring3643 April 25, 2024 at 7:28 pm

I’d love to see all the Hendrick cars do a 90s and early 00s throwback. Rainbow 24, Kelloggs 5, Lowe’s 48 and GMAC 9 maybe.

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@fivespeed42 April 25, 2024 at 8:35 pm

I’d like to see a Tim Richmond or Kenny Schrader #25 scheme in the future

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@andrewwaring3643 April 25, 2024 at 10:19 pm

@@fivespeed42 same

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@mitchtimms9130 April 25, 2024 at 7:57 pm

That Watkins Glen Bus Stop with those kerbs could become a lot like Australian Supercars running through the Beach Chicane at Surfers Paradise. The cars (very similar to the current-generation Cup Car) bounce off the kerbs and fly through the corner complex, it’s quite spectacular to watch as well as being the fastest way through the corner

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@michaelcrane2475 April 25, 2024 at 11:51 pm

Was thinking exactly the same thing. Should suit SVG nicely.

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@ihateracin April 25, 2024 at 8:05 pm

I’m on board for the huge turtles at cup races. There used to be a lot more passing at road courses before they made all the cars the same, but there also used to be more passing at road courses when they didn’t have as much runoff. Back when they actually had to woah up and let off the throttle, just in case they weren’t gonna make the exit of a corner which gave chance for the guy behind to close in for the next braking zone, but this doesn’t happen bc they all blow the corner exit limits every road course they go to

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@nomadman5288 April 25, 2024 at 8:10 pm

I was just thinkingabout this scheme about 3 weeks ago and how Larson should run it at Throback Weekend.
Can I also add: What happened to the special All-Star Race paint schemes they used to run? Bring that back!

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@JacobNascar April 25, 2024 at 9:21 pm

That zip line camera at the Watkins Glen bus stop is one of my favorite camera angles of the entire season and I wish other tracks had it. Yes I remember what happened and acknowledge the hazards.

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