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Should NASCAR Add More Cookie Cutters?

The 2024 AdventHealth 400 may have just had the closest finish that we will ever see in the NASCAR Cup Series' history at 0.001 seconds. Kansas is the best of the crop of "cookie cutter" tracks but it is certainly not alone in the top tier racing it has produced with the Next Gen car. With it, I and many other fans are asking how we can see more of this great style of racing. So, should NASCAR add more cookie cutters?

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58 comments

@TheIceberg May 6, 2024 at 10:32 pm

Do you think NASCAR should add a few more cookie cutter tracks to the Cup schedule?

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@peegeeare May 6, 2024 at 11:17 pm

yes.

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@dking1659 May 6, 2024 at 11:17 pm

Yeah as long as there’s a couple differences

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@NASCARFAN4EVER May 6, 2024 at 11:17 pm

Yes Please!

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@cornholio47 May 6, 2024 at 11:17 pm

Absolutely, bring back Kentucky and Chicagoland while they at it

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@twister1296 May 6, 2024 at 11:17 pm

Yes

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@chasebriscoefan14 May 6, 2024 at 11:18 pm

They should definitely bring back Chicagoland

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@DH54189 May 6, 2024 at 11:41 pm

Chicago would be good. It would be like old Atlanta with how worn it is.

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld May 7, 2024 at 1:39 am

​@@DH54189if it does get a repave though I think it will as successful as Kansas repave they did in 2012.

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@TicketyToc May 7, 2024 at 5:12 am

And Kentucky!

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@michigan__railfan May 7, 2024 at 5:20 am

Kentucky land would be great too

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@Luxornv May 7, 2024 at 5:21 pm

Cut 1 Kansas date and send it to Chicago. It’s a near clone of Kansas. We want it back. What if NASCAR had a rotating schedule where it was on and off every few years?

I’ll be out there next weekend at the drag strip across the street

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@austinemms9772 May 6, 2024 at 11:19 pm

This race definitely proves that NASCAR needs to do more day-to-night transition races. It allows for more exciting strategies and better racing as the race progresses.

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@S.K.R.E.Inc. May 7, 2024 at 12:08 am

And they should put more races on antenna tv so no one gets screwed of another potentially amazing race

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@jwrailve3615 May 7, 2024 at 1:20 am

I’ve been saying this for yearsssssd

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld May 7, 2024 at 1:38 am

Problem is Las Vegas lost it’s Night race which was pretty much a day to night race because they don’t want a race on the same day as Sunday Night football but Kansas certainly needs it’s Night race back though.

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@michaelgawel5823 May 7, 2024 at 1:45 am

Screw the NFL!

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@Tristin471 May 7, 2024 at 2:27 am

@@runrafarunthebestintheworldSimple solution: have it on Saturday night.

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@JGR4LIFE May 6, 2024 at 11:21 pm

This is why I call NASCAR fans the most hypocritical fans in all of sports. Once upon a time nobody wanted cookie cutter tracks, instead more short tracks. Now it’s the other way around.

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@samharris3508 May 6, 2024 at 11:36 pm

NASCAR needs to fix the road and short track ovals and it’ll even out.

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@Galaticat117 May 7, 2024 at 12:30 am

It’s literally the cars fault not the fans (at least on this topic) the past car and package made cookie cutters bad and boring but made road courses super exciting cuz it was still a 3,500 pound stock car but with this new car it’s done the extreme of what was asked, it’s way to good at rc’s and now they’re bad and now have some how brought back fun cookie cutters

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@President_Grover_Cleveland May 7, 2024 at 12:51 am

@@Galaticat117 This is so true. Not to sound cynical but the racing at most Cookie cutters stunk with the 550 package. Bring in the NEXT-GEN and now the table are reversed.

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld May 7, 2024 at 1:42 am

​@@President_Grover_ClevelandRacing at cookie cutters sucked from 2015 tru the 2021 period. The only year Cookie cutters was actually good was 2016 which is the only outlier.

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@MyDogFulton May 7, 2024 at 2:52 am

That’s because if the car.

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@BlueJimmie48Fan May 6, 2024 at 11:31 pm

I think NASCAR can do away with one road course in the Chicago Street Course once their contract ends in exchange for Chicagoland!

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@NascarAviationDude May 7, 2024 at 1:12 am

Agreed!

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@ewayne1918 May 7, 2024 at 1:15 am

I disagree Chicago Street Course had too much potential upside.

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld May 7, 2024 at 1:44 am

Yes.

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld May 7, 2024 at 1:45 am

​@@ewayne1918if anything NASCAR should be going to Mid Ohio not downtown Chicago.

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@ewayne1918 May 7, 2024 at 2:09 am

@@runrafarunthebestintheworld I agree with you on mid Ohio it’s a pretty cool road course. If I may ask what do you not like about the Chicago Street Course racing wise?

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@milogunther5024 May 6, 2024 at 11:34 pm

We need more night races, or more transitioning races. Add Chicagoland, Try Kentucky, after maybe a proper and high IQ repave, I can’t think of any other 1.5 mile tracks

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@S.K.R.E.Inc. May 7, 2024 at 12:10 am

Nah, Kentucky can stay out of this one, and take out TexARSE with it. The SMI tracks (that aren’t Charlotte) ALL SUCK right now, and the beef between HACKlin and SIMPING Smith is anything to go by, they hate when they’re told wrong

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@joshmeister4449 May 7, 2024 at 12:29 am

@@S.K.R.E.Inc. Texas put on a pretty good show for xfinity and cup this year, it’s slowly getting better.

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@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT May 7, 2024 at 12:39 am

Fix Kentucky

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@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT May 7, 2024 at 12:39 am

@@joshmeister4449 fix Texas

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@NascarAviationDude May 7, 2024 at 1:13 am

Fix Kentucky And TexASS
Add Chicagoland

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@mintedcow May 6, 2024 at 11:50 pm

If they don’t do anything to fix the short track and road course packages then yes, more Cookie cutters.

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@nascarfanatic2425 May 7, 2024 at 12:24 am

And considering the only logical solution is to increase the horsepower, and NASCAR is being very stubborn about this, I think the increase of 1.5 mile tracks is a good alternative.

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@castandblast1852 May 6, 2024 at 11:57 pm

Only tracks that need 2 dates are Daytona and dega. Let’s keep it special

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@user-jf4nj3ez2k May 7, 2024 at 6:27 am

I agree

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@chargilchrist May 7, 2024 at 8:33 am

Charlotte, All Star & the 600

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@rosscrashtain May 7, 2024 at 12:02 am

I’m gonna say no, because eventually they’ll figure out the gen 7 or with the introduction of the gen short tracks will be good again and we’ll want more of them

(Except Chicagoland, please bring it back, for sentimental reasons if nothing else)

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@davidmatthewvinotjr8396 May 7, 2024 at 12:04 am

Atlanta: Close finish at the line
Texas: OT finish
Kansas: OT Finish, Dead Heat at the line.

Outside of Vegas, the 1.5 mile races this year have been great. Charlotte has a high benchmark to hit for the Coke 600.

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@tescoshortage May 7, 2024 at 1:24 am

Charlotte is going to deliver. I just know it.

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@alric8 May 7, 2024 at 7:26 am

Vegas was a good race, you can still have awesome races without photo finishes or OT

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@Ronald_Jones May 7, 2024 at 10:43 am

Texas happened on a usual circumstance

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@ianperry9598 May 7, 2024 at 4:39 pm

Vegas was also good! More tame than the others but it definitely was solid

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@erickrebs2407 May 7, 2024 at 4:43 pm

​@@Ronald_Jones Yeah, Texas wasn’t the best this year, but I must say Texas is getting better every year to me. I just wish they could get the old PJ1/resin off the damn track. I think it would widen out and put on a much better race if so. My opinion is biased though as I’m in Texas about 4 hours from the track, so I really want them to figure it out.

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@jf5817 May 7, 2024 at 12:16 am

Definitely need more day-night transitions

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@nightmarewatcher24 May 7, 2024 at 12:20 am

I think nascar should move the spring Kansas race to a night race

Edit: I really don’t want nascar to get rid of the Roval because I want the coke 600 to be the only race on the oval

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@runrafarunthebestintheworld May 7, 2024 at 1:46 am

Yeah Kansas does need it’s Night race back. We worked very hard for it.

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@Rev4Yakel May 7, 2024 at 1:25 am

yknow, its funny i got my friend into NASCAR not knowing this was gonna be a really awesome season..

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@chrisguardiano6143 May 7, 2024 at 2:03 am

As an Indycar fan in addition to NASCAR, it is time for NASCAR, SMI & ISC to end their petty feud with Indycar (that has essentially blocked Indycar from racing at their tracks) so that Indycar can experience the same thing NASCAR has experienced when it comes to exciting races on these cookie cutter tracks. Indycar desperately needs to return to these cookie cutter tracks because for over a decade, they have been forced to race on absolutely terrible street circuits/road courses like the ones in Nashville or the Indy RC which either produce wreck fests or boring racing. I would love to see Kansas, Vegas, Michigan & Chicagoland all return to the Indycar schedule in the next few years to replace these races & make the Indycar schedule much more balanced. Heck even Indycar returning to Texas or Pocono or even trying to go to Atlanta or Charlotte would be welcomed by the fans.

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@LyleFrancisDelp May 7, 2024 at 2:57 am

Not only was that finish the closest ever, but IT WAS FOUR WIDE!!!! The 3rd and 4th drivers were right there!

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@rus2207 May 7, 2024 at 3:08 am

i genuinely think chicagoland would race very well with this gen 7 car

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@unicornvenom420 May 7, 2024 at 3:57 am

This race makes me wish we had WAAAAY more night races/day-night races.

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@SuperNASCARrocks May 7, 2024 at 5:39 am

I think yes. The racing on the 1.5 tracks with the next gen car has been incredible. I would definitely add a couple more.

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@Eagleracer38x May 7, 2024 at 5:43 am

NASCAR or MSI did this before… All the 1.5 mile tracks that looked like Charlotte or Michigan in the 90’s and early 00’s. Fans got bored of the that pretty quickly. I like tracks with character, like the old Atlanta and Darlington layouts, and the real Sonoma. But, I know some tracks never make for good races, like Loudon and Texas.

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