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The Kyle Larson Waiver Debate

Over the Memorial Day Weekend Kyle Larson was the biggest story in all of motorsports for attempting the Indy 500/World 600 double. Unfortunately rain decided to rain on everyone’s parade and both postponed the Indianapolis 500 and prematurely end the Coca-Cola 600. This cause Larson not only to skip out on starting the 600 but completely miss it, sparking a debate. The Kyle Larson waiver debate.

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56 comments

@TheIceberg May 28, 2024 at 7:19 pm

Do you think Kyle Larson should or shouldn’t get a Playoff waiver?

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@chasebriscoefan14 May 28, 2024 at 7:28 pm

I think he should

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@elitegamer21005 May 28, 2024 at 7:28 pm

Should

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@keithkotary1136 May 28, 2024 at 7:40 pm

Of course he should. I just think it is ridiculous to question his eligibility with uncontrollable circumstances “Mother Nature”, at play.

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@Dupontman627 May 28, 2024 at 7:42 pm

3rd in points (six behind Hamlin)

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@Ttt11q May 28, 2024 at 7:46 pm

Yes he should

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@Corey_silva94 May 28, 2024 at 7:29 pm

Imagine if he still wins the regular season and doesn’t get a waiver. Explain that to new fans

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@RySpazzin May 28, 2024 at 8:07 pm

The explanation would be, don’t leave your sport to participate in other events outside of your brand that may interfere. But regardless, he’s definitely going to get a waiver, no way NASCAR punishes him like this. Although they could say, he had the opportunity to leave the 500 because the rain and make it in time to his race. So idk. It’ll be interesting to see what line is drawn

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@HarryHafsak May 28, 2024 at 8:15 pm

lol this is such silly logic from OP. Throw out the rules for new fans.

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@dang5553 May 28, 2024 at 8:59 pm

New fans are stupid and nascar has listen to them too often

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@pastelninjak5864 May 28, 2024 at 9:00 pm

NASCAR being NASCAR

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@MCC-fo1oe May 28, 2024 at 9:40 pm

@RuSpazzin while I understand where you’re coming from, you just saying that based on your personal feelings. Unless there was a literal rule set in place, you would pretty much have to give Larson a waiver just because of all the other crap they let slide it would seem pretty stupid on the end of Nascar to have this be where they draw the line

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@cpttankerjoe May 28, 2024 at 7:29 pm

I honestly think that Larson should. Just because there’s no other driver in the field right now who on a perfect day could win both races. This weekend he wasn’t able to make it because of the weather which impacted both races. If that day had gone perfectly. No weather. He may still have lost at Indy. But he could have won the Coke 600

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@joshuapboston1999 May 28, 2024 at 7:30 pm

Larson needs a waiver. This should not be up for discussion. He couldn’t control the weather, and you can’t forsake the greatest spectacle in racing when you have an opportunity.

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@zt5547 May 28, 2024 at 7:42 pm

He could control where he’s gonna be that day. 😉 He chose not to be at Charlotte.

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@jetengnexd4348 May 28, 2024 at 8:07 pm

@@zt5547he chose to miss the BEGINNING of Charlotte, Larson had every intention of finishing the race in the 5 car, the weather shortening the cup race was out of his control

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@zt5547 May 28, 2024 at 8:11 pm

@@jetengnexd4348 Even if Larson finished Charlotte race – it wouldn’t make any difference, the result would count towards the driver who started it (Allgaier).

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@thatonefatguy9043 May 28, 2024 at 8:31 pm

​@jetengnexd4348 if you deliberately choose to miss the start of the cup race you shouldn’t be given a pass. Rules clearly state you need to attempt to start every race. He was neither hurt nor suspended, but instead made a deliberate choice to miss the race.

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@Boxscot49 May 28, 2024 at 9:59 pm

@@thatonefatguy9043thank god you arent the one in charge of anything

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@Kavanaugh_Kohls May 28, 2024 at 7:31 pm

He made it to the track, they stopped the race. He couldn’t have done any thing else given the circumstances.

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@guygrayson9859 May 28, 2024 at 7:56 pm

The rules state that a driver has to start every race. Not get in over halfway. They’ll give it to him though.

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@kingsally2864 May 28, 2024 at 8:15 pm

@@guygrayson9859 the rule also states ITRC. a term littered in the nascar rulebook. it stands for IN THE RARE CIRCUMSTANCE. its a term nascar uses in its rulebook to do things on a case by case basis

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@Tennessee_Jon May 29, 2024 at 12:42 am

He chose to stay in Indy knowing he would not make it to the start of the 600 instead of getting someone who he put out from racing to sub in the Indy car. Yes it was setup for him and would have been a handicap for a sub but at least the car would have been in the race. He doesn’t deserve a pass all because of his rain delay Indy race. And to all the people who listen to the BS on here the book states he has to start every race not halfway. Yes it’s a case by case basis and in this case he doesn’t deserve a pass. Give him this pass then how is it fair to Lil wiener Ricky (according to Danica) with a 75k fine when NASCAR will use his fight with Busch as promotion? Reckon we’ll see around 2 or 3 tomorrow what NASCAR says.

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@donlittle5655 May 29, 2024 at 1:05 am

@@guygrayson9859Exactly!

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@YankeeDoodle2 May 29, 2024 at 1:54 am

​@@Tennessee_Jon
Found a hater

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@TreyWright34 May 28, 2024 at 7:33 pm

Why is this even a debate? Rick Hendrick gave him his blessing, NASCAR game him their blessing. And if it weren’t for mother nature being terrible this wouldn’t even be a discussion. Plus, it’s not a random sprint car race in the middle of Indiana, it’s the Indy 500.

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@deliriouswhome1 May 28, 2024 at 7:56 pm

Because certain people want to turn everything into a debate..
There not one good reason to not give Larson a waiver..I havent heard one.

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@driver8703 May 29, 2024 at 12:05 am

The people that don’t want him to have a waiver are the ones that don’t like hendrick or Larson

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@15DEAN1995 May 28, 2024 at 7:43 pm

If NASCAR had points for the whole season like most other racing series, this wouldn’t be a debate. He’d take the points hit if he misses a race, do Indy and try to get back for the other event.

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@spheredhawk6780 May 28, 2024 at 7:45 pm

I don’t even why this is a debate because:
1.) He already has 2 wins.
2.) He was the points leader coming into the 600.
3.) They’ve given waivers to more undeserving drivers and we didn’t say anything.
Larson’s going to get a playoff waiver. And if any of y’all get pissed off, go cry into your pillow because no one cares.

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@thatonefatguy9043 May 28, 2024 at 8:29 pm

I’m not crying. He intentionally picked another series over cup. He knew the potential consequences, now face the music. The rules state you have to attempt every race. He wasn’t hurt nor suspended, but rather chose to miss the race. It shows where his priorities lie.

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@thefella9120 May 28, 2024 at 8:42 pm

@@thatonefatguy9043 had the rain not come, he wouldnt have missed the 600.

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@jasonlitz2907 May 28, 2024 at 9:03 pm

​@thatonefatguy9043 bringing more interest to Nascar in other racing outlets. I think you have it backwards. They are doing them free publicity.

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@Gemrit May 28, 2024 at 9:18 pm

@@thatonefatguy9043 he did everything he could to complete the Indy 500 and make it back to finish the 600. He even made it there, weather prevented him from getting into the car. Your opinion is ignorant. Kyle Larson racing the 500 and attempting the 600 brought eyes to not only him, but nascar and Indy. It benefits every single aspect.

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@Dexter037S4 May 28, 2024 at 9:21 pm

@@thefella9120 *Had FOX not called the race due to TV Contracts.

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@naparacingfan9275 May 28, 2024 at 7:45 pm

Yes he should get a waiver but the whole waiver rule has become completely meaningless. It should just be top 16 in points instead of forced win and your win. He’s only 6 points behind 1st after missing a race.

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@speed4brainz May 29, 2024 at 12:16 am

Shouldn’t even be 16. It should be 10 with the field being shortened to 40 drivers the last few years with only 32 or so drivers competing full time the last few years. No reason for half the field to be in the hunt for a championship. 12 at the most.

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@jacobevenson8702 May 29, 2024 at 4:18 am

@@speed4brainz I still think we should go back to 10 guys in on points, 2 guys in on wins outside the top 10 in points, and the playoffs itself should be two 5 race rounds. Cut the playoff field in half after race 5 and the rest battle it out for the championship over 5 races.

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@speed4brainz May 29, 2024 at 4:48 am

@jacobevenson8702  not a bad way to do it considering half usually aren’t even in contention the last 5 races

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@chromediesel444 May 28, 2024 at 7:45 pm

Just abolish it. Point your way in.

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@Imuprightnow May 28, 2024 at 7:50 pm

Here’s the new Rule: larson gets the waiver IF

He and rick hendrick have a twerk off at the chicago street race

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@Legend-gf2ic May 28, 2024 at 10:32 pm

How dumb are you actually

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@Dat-Mudkip May 28, 2024 at 7:58 pm

Honestly the waiver system needs to be thrown into the trash can. If you can make it to cup despite missing a race or two then you should be allowed in.

Of course it doesn’t help that we have the whole “win and your in” gimmick, which is the only reason the mandate for entering every race even exists in the first place.

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@hollygolden9673 May 28, 2024 at 8:25 pm

Exactly!

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@valrond May 28, 2024 at 9:43 pm

Indeed. Get in the top 16 in points, or a win and top 20. Does it matter if you missed a race? KB missed 11 races and he was still champ. NASCAR has neither the moral, nor logic highground to NOT grant a waiver.

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@jetengnexd4348 May 28, 2024 at 8:05 pm

It wouldn’t be fair to not give him a waiver, I could somewhat understand if he just decided to miss the whole Coke 600, but as soon as Indy was over, he headed straight to Charlotte and would’ve finished the race had it not been for weather. Without weather, an outside factor, Kyle Larson would have finished this race by the rules.

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@jackson-md2gh May 28, 2024 at 8:05 pm

if NASCAR used the winston format he would still be affected but not out of the title fight, perfect balance

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@flyingpizza98 May 28, 2024 at 8:14 pm

NASCAR should get rid of the “must start all races” and replace it with a 2 playoff point penalty for every race they miss regardless of reason

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@hengineer May 28, 2024 at 9:17 pm

not a bad choice, as those are often erased by the results of one race, especially in the first round.

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@mandalorianrailfan8458 May 28, 2024 at 9:36 pm

I agree, unless it’s an injury that happens during a race.

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@greatness1438 May 28, 2024 at 8:15 pm

It’s simple: If my boy Matt Kenseth can get a waiver for existing in 2020, or Chase Elliot can get a waiver after being suspended by NASCAR themselves, Larson gets a waiver for trying to go 1,100 racing miles on the biggest day of Motorsports on the year, with it being derailed by rain.

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@Ultimate23Dragon May 28, 2024 at 11:43 pm

Kenseth got one because he’s a Golden Boy.

Elliott got one as an incentive to not constantly wreck Hamlin during the playoffs.

Difference here is there’s a precedent already in place with Grant Enfinger. Kyle Larson should not get a waiver.

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@jvydenlovescruises May 29, 2024 at 12:17 pm

@@Ultimate23Dragonyou didnt explain anything why he shouldnt

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@patmanbnl May 28, 2024 at 8:37 pm

I like the idea of a waiver as long as he stays top 16 in points. Not granting one would prevent any regular cup driver from ever again trying the double and would be shortsighted by NASCAR.

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@walletracer9882 May 29, 2024 at 12:38 am

Better solution to the waiver rule: just get rid of the win and you’re in system to begin with. Make the regular season points matter.

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@zuwarkgaming May 29, 2024 at 2:45 am

You physically can not say Larson skipped the 600 when he was shown on live tv heading to his pit box LONG before they threw the red

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