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Legacy Motor Club and NASCAR have suspended Noah Gragson indefinitely. Also, let's talk to several bubble drivers about their Playoff confidence!

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0:00 Gragson suspended
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60 comments

Eric Estepp August 5, 2023 at 6:52 pm

NOTE: Martin Truex Jr. just announced that he WILL RETURN in 2024

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D2 Eagle August 5, 2023 at 6:54 pm

As a long time MTJ fan I’m glad I get to see one more season of him doing what he does best

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KFB nation August 5, 2023 at 6:55 pm

Welp gragson is for sure done then. With this and Nemechek coming up

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Mutant Ryeff August 5, 2023 at 6:55 pm

He would be happier if he didn’t

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StevenP727 August 5, 2023 at 6:59 pm

Always liked MT Jr glad he ain’t done yet!

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Adrian August 5, 2023 at 7:00 pm

I think if he wins the championship this year he should retire.

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K05 August 5, 2023 at 6:53 pm

Legacy is just wanting put john hunter into the 42 next year so heres there excuse to do it

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Dan G August 5, 2023 at 9:04 pm

Your right

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Fowler Motorsports August 5, 2023 at 10:02 pm

Agreed to make things worse, his replacement just won the Xfinity race.

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K05 August 5, 2023 at 10:17 pm

@Fowler Motorsports yeah they said something last week and were probably just waiting on Martins to sign back and yeah so they just tried finding anyway to screw him out of it

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K05 August 6, 2023 at 3:41 am

@Timothy Brown Yeah its sad but damn just like wow

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Mike Adams August 5, 2023 at 6:56 pm

Interesting timing on Noah’s suspension. They find a meme from months ago….after it’s leaked that Legacy was trying to dump him for John Hunter. Guessing next step will be to use this to void Noah’s contract

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marcolian August 5, 2023 at 8:41 pm

WIth Truex announcing that he’d be back next year all of this lines up a little too perfectly.

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Anthony the American August 5, 2023 at 11:13 pm

Maybe

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flacko August 5, 2023 at 11:51 pm

Or maybe just call out Noah for being racist? No? Guess not huh. Blame the world

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Anthony the American August 6, 2023 at 12:05 am

@flacko let’s be honest here, everyone has laughed at those types of memes before. I’m not a racist person, don’t get me wrong here, but sometimes some dark humor is funny, even though it is dark. That said he is a public figure so I understand the suspension but I think it’s going a bit far to call Noah a racist. I highly doubt he is anyone like that.

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GreatHitNick August 5, 2023 at 6:57 pm

I’m curious to see if Berry fills in beyond Michigan. Or if a Toyota driver drives for legacy after this weekend. I would say it’s gonna be Berry for the rest of season

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Ben Morris August 5, 2023 at 7:02 pm

It is still a Chevrolet for the rest of 23 and Chevrolet has a say in who drives the car.

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WolfPack Studios August 5, 2023 at 8:56 pm

A Toyota driver has a Toyota contract they can’t jump in a Chevy

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RynosRaceroom66 August 5, 2023 at 9:01 pm

Yea #Chevrolet probably won’t want a #Toyota driver in there

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WolfPack Studios August 5, 2023 at 9:17 pm

​@RynosRaceroom66well technically Chevy doesn’t have a say. They already cut ties and pulled backing for LMC hell they been using JGR pit crew members for a while now this year. They are nothing but a logo on the car at this point.

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Gary Jackson August 5, 2023 at 9:38 pm

​@WolfPack StudiosThe Chevrolet contract is in place until the end of 2023. So Chevrolet is definitely making the calls.

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Triple P Productionz August 5, 2023 at 7:08 pm

i think this seals gragsons fate, hes either going back to xfinity or going to the couch. there isnt a single cup seat i could see him going to, his best bet is either back to jrm, or taking chandler smiths place at kaulig

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Brian Webb August 5, 2023 at 11:03 pm

At most the 77

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Bruh_Im_A_Pigeon August 6, 2023 at 3:35 am

Maybe Kaulig? He raced for them some last yeae

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Ben Morris August 5, 2023 at 7:10 pm

People need to abandon social media all together. Life has not improved with the addition of social media platforms. How many more people have to get cancelled before everyone wakes up? Noah made a bad decision. There are ramifications for your actions. Always has been and always will be.

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Gigachad August 5, 2023 at 8:15 pm

He literally just liked a post it’s not that deep let him do what he wants

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Zachary August 5, 2023 at 8:24 pm

He didn’t make a bad decision people got offended because over something stupid

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Kent Adams August 5, 2023 at 8:29 pm

@NASCAR Memer Owenlol you beat me to it

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Matt Malarkey August 5, 2023 at 8:43 pm

Everyone knows there are consequences for your actions in our word. We learn that around the age of 2. There is no such thing as “cancelation.” It’s a mad up term for people who feel like there should not be consequences for wrongdoing. Think about the people who use the term and why they use it.

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Logan England August 5, 2023 at 7:12 pm

I feel like a suspension was a bit much but Lmc was trying to get JHN so I’m not surprised

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No Name Given August 5, 2023 at 7:15 pm

Exactly. Legacy tool advantage of a disgusting cancel culture society and got Noah out of the car.

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Steve Eazy August 5, 2023 at 7:57 pm

I hope JHN doesn’t go for a second mediocre cup ride and holds out for a better situation Legacy is a mid pack company if that and i think he has earned better.

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Real King August 5, 2023 at 8:51 pm

@Steve Eazy If I were JHN I would stay at Xfinity for a while longer until a seat on some major team is available. LMC this year has been terrible and I think it would be another setback for his career.

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stellingbanjodude August 5, 2023 at 7:20 pm

Toyota got their wish. This was nothing more than a surgical takedown.

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WastdTrashPanda August 6, 2023 at 12:00 am

Just makes me not like JJ and Toyota even more.

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Megatron2013 August 6, 2023 at 12:39 am

Noah went WOKE. He apologized for liking the Floyd picture. Go woke, go broke.

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Craig Grant August 6, 2023 at 1:32 am

@Megatron2013 So you approve of people being murdered ?

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AnOkayPerson August 6, 2023 at 1:34 am

@Craig Grant Floyd wasn’t murdered, he died of an overdose, his breathing was labored even before being placed on the ground. The Hennepin County’s autopsy even said so.

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Devin C August 6, 2023 at 1:51 am

​@Megatron2013cute chant kiddo, but that ain’t what woke means

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Roy Avery August 5, 2023 at 7:41 pm

JGR may very well had a hand in this suspension. Legacy was looking for a reason as they will be an extension of JGR and Noah is not welcome in the Toyota family because of spoiled brat Ty Gibbs. Just this week it was reported Legacy was considering replacing Noah. His contract was signed prior to the conception of Legacy Jimmie Johnson or the new Toyota affiliation. Witch hunt in his social media gave them something to grasp onto. Simply dirty pool. The announcement of Martin coming back today only supports this Theory. They needed a seat for John Hunter Nemechek

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Jordan Skelton August 6, 2023 at 1:41 am

they wont be an extension of JGR they will have a direct relationship with toyota

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Roy Avery August 6, 2023 at 2:05 am

@Jordan Skelton you haven’t been paying attention. They will be technical partners directly with jgr much like furniture row was prior to jgr absorbing that team. John Hunter going to Legacy which is most likely whats happening is because of this relationship

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PC10.8 August 5, 2023 at 7:46 pm

They probably just looking for an excuse to give Noah the boot. TRD doesn’t really want him, it seems. With Truex coming back in ‘24 I’m sure they want JHN in the car.

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Satoshi Serena August 5, 2023 at 8:32 pm

I think Gragson is a sacrificial lamb with Legacy moving to Toyota next year. Now that Truex is returning next year, I feel Toyota was going to replace Gragson with JHN. I think Gragson is tied to Chevy.

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michael Pluska August 6, 2023 at 2:13 am

When I first heard this… It’s just LMC looking for their reason for letting him go for JHN next year! Who knows JHN might get to fill in for a few races this season.

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Satoshi Serena August 6, 2023 at 2:33 am

@michael Pluska I think Legacy wasn’t going to retain Grayson because of the switch to Toyota. I don’t think Nemechek can drive for Legacy because they’re a Chevy team and JHN is a Toyota driver. Also I think Grayson is tied to Chevy. Maybe he’s going to Kaulig to drive the #31 Chevy. I don’t think he wants to go back to XFINITY. I think JHN was in line to replace Truex but now that he’s returning, Toyota had no choice but to put Nemechek at Legacy in the #42.

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Satoshi Serena August 6, 2023 at 2:36 am

@FPSB I think this is more due to LMC becoming a Toyota team next year and I think Grayson is part of the Chevy development program.

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Easy E Network August 6, 2023 at 1:15 pm

@FPSBI don’t think Jimmie is really that good of a businessman like Jeff is either though. You see how much better they ran once Jeff got into those cars in 2016 vs when he was just managing the team, the performance seemed to pick up around Indy when he started driving again, l thought. Jimmie is good, but Jeff helped really build HMS into the powerhouse they are today, along with Chad and Ray.

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6AllMotivePowerS August 5, 2023 at 9:08 pm

How crazy if Berry could get the team its first top 10 of the year, especially if he’s still with them come Martinsville.

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Bentley Joshua August 5, 2023 at 9:09 pm

Eric, I appreciate your spin on this issue. Noah is a good guy who made a silly mistake.

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FPSB August 5, 2023 at 11:36 pm

Eric Soystep needs to stay in BFM’s good graces or he won’t be doing the podcast anymore.

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N/A N/A August 6, 2023 at 3:26 am

Did he really make a mistake

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Existing in a space August 6, 2023 at 3:32 am

Mistake or not doesn’t matter. NASCAR is not going to let anyone have independent thought unless it matches what they want it to be.

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Tvsnumber1fan August 5, 2023 at 11:16 pm

The problem is, when it comes to Noah Gragson and what he supposedly did on social media, NASCAR and Legacy Motor Club are in a no win situation. If they don’t do anything then sponsors and certain individuals will complain, but if they do what they have done with Noah Gragson, then you will upset many other people for reasons I will not go into here. I don’t want to be NASCAR or Legacy Motor Club right now because it’s a no win situation.

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WildTurkey_24 August 6, 2023 at 4:38 am

Honestly the only way for this crap to stop is to not apologize and for them to not worry about certain sponsors. They are the ones keeping this crap going. It has to stop, somebody needs to make a stand but they’re too gutless to.

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FishNFoolLures August 6, 2023 at 6:09 am

If there is a sponsor that caters to this woke crap they DO NOT BELONG IN NASCAR.

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Easy E Network August 6, 2023 at 1:10 pm

Black Rifle probably was concerned. They are a veteran owned company and probably respect activism without liking Floyd.

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Easy E Network August 6, 2023 at 1:12 pm

@WildTurkey_24No, the stand is not normalizing that kind of behavior, meaning racism and police brutality. I would think anyone supporting Trump or the GOP would be against police brutality and authority over reach. Not accusing you of being pro-Trump or anything, but I know that crowd exists in NASCAR and yet does not realize the irony of being against the idea of government overreach while realizing Chauvin killing Floyd was criminal still.

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Joshua Paulsen August 6, 2023 at 5:17 am

I hate being in my mid-forty’s, but damn I’m glad I grew up without social media and cell phones. All of this nonsense is so insane, gets weirder by the week.

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