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KAULIG RACING POINTS PENALTY REDUCED, NASCAR TEAM OWNERS BOYCOTTED MEETING – NASCAR RACE HUB

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42 comments

RACINGUS95 April 5, 2023 at 10:15 pm

Oh boy, here we go…

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John H April 5, 2023 at 10:19 pm

We need more transparency. The appeals process needs revised.

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StevenP727 April 5, 2023 at 10:20 pm

Hendrick motorsports had the better lawyer basically, money talks!

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NoSoyAllowed April 5, 2023 at 11:17 pm

Hendrick has text messages that show that NASCAR approved the louvers. The brought receipts to the appeal and they won. Apparently #31 team did not have the same receipt.

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Farkle8000 April 5, 2023 at 10:21 pm

Kaulig and HMS did the exact same thing

Same parts, same penalty

So then why aren’t the appeals results the same!!!!??????

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Roy McDre April 5, 2023 at 10:28 pm

Maybe they didnt have the same paper trail

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Timechanger ! April 5, 2023 at 10:31 pm

The appeal and argument can be different. HMS had a good argument
Kaulig must not have
We will never know until they release the info on what argument was brought up

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Kartkid024 April 5, 2023 at 10:34 pm

I think one big difference was that HMS brought the parts to the attention of Nascar before Practice and were cleared to race with them.

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NASCARFAN93100 April 5, 2023 at 10:28 pm

Kaulig should have gotten the exact same penalty reduction as Hendrick Motorsports
But I guess NASCAR wanted to piss away what credibility they had left

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Fastaria Motorsports April 5, 2023 at 10:37 pm

its not nascar fault its a 3rd party that chooses if the penlities get appealed or not, a lot of nascar fans don’t know this and its a very important factor. We shouldn’t be getting pissed at nascar they enforced the rules, the 3rd party that is removing penlities is the reason of these dumb favouritism

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NASCARFAN93100 April 5, 2023 at 10:45 pm

@Fastaria Motorsports Still a bad look for NASCAR nevertheless

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RDGamer321 April 6, 2023 at 6:05 am

​@Fastaria Motorsports It doesn’t help that for every single case they review they put an entirely new panel forward to judge the case. So Kaulig could have presented the exact same info that Hendrick did but because the people making the decision were different the outcome was different. This process, of course, makes no sense and provides no consistency in judging.

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Craig E April 6, 2023 at 11:09 am

The fix was in for Hendrick this does not make any sense. Kaulig gets there cars and parts from Hendrick. Why did the hammer kaulig and drop the points penalty of Hendrick ? Sometimes very weird here.

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Bill B April 6, 2023 at 11:29 am

@RDGamer321 I feel like NASCAR needs to find a panel that is the same for all decisions. The fact that you have different panels mean you will never have consistency in these types of calls.

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JohnCarlosFan43 April 5, 2023 at 10:31 pm

Kaulig racing can not get a break

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Craig E April 6, 2023 at 11:06 am

They did not pay off the appeal panel like Hendrick why else would they get a penalty when their cars prepared by Hendrick

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JohnCarlosFan43 April 6, 2023 at 2:45 pm

@Craig E argeed

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Tony Rasmussen April 5, 2023 at 10:38 pm

I think the car owners need to start up their own series and tell nascar to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.

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Braedon Shelton April 6, 2023 at 3:07 am

That ain’t happening. They need NASCAR as much as NaSCAR needs the teams.

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DewkChronic April 5, 2023 at 10:48 pm

The reason Hendrick got the points back and Kaulig did not is Hendrick asked someone if they could make the parts fit and someone OK’d it. Kaulig didnt get a go ahead to do it. 1 team got permission that was wrong and the other team did not.

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The Duffy Street Incident Podcast April 5, 2023 at 11:13 pm

So, if they got permission why were they fined money? Either they fucked up and the plenty should have been upheld or not.

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NoSoyAllowed April 5, 2023 at 11:16 pm

@The Duffy Street Incident Podcast ask Nascar that question. Hendrick brought texts messages that showed they asked permission when they had the appeal. NASCAR should give back that $400k to HMS.

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Shane Craver April 5, 2023 at 10:58 pm

Wow This is a mistake made by the appeals jury?? The car never made it on track was the argument I had why Hendricks got driver points back but this is very VERY disappointing and will cause the media and fans to not shine a light on Nascar it makes that Black eye even darker for the sport now. Unbelievable that the fine and crew chief should of stayed but car never made the track so driver points being only reduced WOW way to keep the sport in the news appeal committee

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NoSoyAllowed April 5, 2023 at 11:19 pm

Hendrick also has text messages that show NASCAR approved the modification.

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Shane Craver April 6, 2023 at 12:18 am

@NoSoyAllowed Have not heard what type of communication was pass through both parties seems that they got the OK to make the parts fit then Nascar saw how it was done and said no. But my issue is I don’t think any cars got on the track with the part on the car therefore the driver has no fault in the accident which means the points should not have been issued in the first place. Also the penalty in points should only be the amount of if the driver won the race and all the stages for that track so it like they were disqualified for that race. Giving teams more than that is just wrong even for the sport and the support of that teams fans because that takes you out of the championship even with a win for a smaller team this DOES NOT even the playing field for all.

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Craig E April 6, 2023 at 11:10 am

The fix was in

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Joseph R Sescila April 5, 2023 at 11:15 pm

Kaulig got screwed all 8 of Hendrick got all taken. Just 1 got taken from Kaulig. this is just total bullpoop

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Six April 5, 2023 at 11:16 pm

Kaulig getting a points penalty is Nascars way of saving face bc they were shown up on the Hendrick appeal.

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INeedMILKster April 5, 2023 at 11:38 pm

absoute BS

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thiewes18racing April 5, 2023 at 11:42 pm

I’ll take the owners seriously once they boycott a race and nascar has to cancel the race

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Beast Rover April 6, 2023 at 11:24 am

Hopefully at Texas

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connor bingel April 6, 2023 at 12:25 pm

That really just screws over the broadcast partners and sponsors, people that the team owners also want to keep happy. The team owners aren’t gonna boycott a race until the situation is very dire and if the deal has already been signed

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thiewes18racing April 6, 2023 at 12:37 pm

@connor bingel that’s why nascar is going down hill fast… Big dirt track teams have no problem missing races to make a point

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Fishing With Kar April 6, 2023 at 12:33 am

Proof beyond any doubt favoritism to Hendrick what BS!!

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William Wever April 6, 2023 at 1:38 am

What I would like to see is the flag stand giving the green flag and all the drivers come to a stop. Nascar operations would realize they are nothing without the teams they seem to regard as trash.

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Braedon Shelton April 6, 2023 at 3:06 am

Vise Versa the teams are nothing without NASCAR

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Bill B April 6, 2023 at 11:32 am

@Braedon Shelton You’re right to a certain extent. I mean if the NASCAR drivers all said we’re gone, and formed another series, then THAT series would be the one that people tuned into. Worst case though, is that you end up with a CART vs. IRL deal. It needs to be all or nothing.

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TN Whiskey April 6, 2023 at 7:11 am

I want to know what this communication about using this part was and how nascar blessed off on it before they retracted it

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TN Whiskey April 6, 2023 at 7:12 am

We need to bombard nascar with questions

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Craig E April 6, 2023 at 11:04 am

This shows when you are one of the big teams in nascar you can buy your why out of penalties. There cars are come from Hendrick but their penalty is upheld something doesn’t smell right I’m guessing NASCAR didn’t want to lose Hendrix for cars from the playoffs

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Chris Buck April 6, 2023 at 12:17 pm

the first panel was surprised by steak and lobster dinners and maybe a small donation to a favorite charity. kaulig only serves mcdonalds

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Thomas April 6, 2023 at 12:56 pm

Daniel confused everytime he talks I get confused

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